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 Oto: you lied on constitution Reforms, Orina Nyamwamu ;

 Fwd: CONSTITUTION REVIEW Odhiambo T Oketch ;

: CONSTITUTION REVIEW, Odhiambo T Oketch ;

----- message from orina Nyamwamu ; -----
    Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 06:15:03 -0800 (PST)
    From: orina Nyamwamu ;
 Subject: Oto: you lied on constitution Reforms
To: {the list}

Oto,
  I disagree with the assertion that we should wait for a leader [meaning president] to come to State house who really is committed to constitution reforms before we can hope for a new constitution.
  
  This is very annoying.
  
  There is not a time a leader is going to come to state house to overhaul, reform or advocate for a new constitution.
  
  Your promise is laced with some one in mind. I do not really care who that is
but I care that there is no such a person any where for us to hang our hope on
and wait. The underlying assumptions are the following
  i.                     that Kibaki is obviously going to be thrown out of state house
  ii.                   That after that a 'revolutionary president' will come in to do the advocacy for anew constitution. This assumption is flimsy and lackadaisical. Why would a president fight for the enactment of anew constitution in a country where the elite have found a formula for accommodating each other as a strategy to defeat the change of the status quos in terms of the political, social and economic system?
  iii.                  Your third assumption is that constitution making and its advocacy is driven by the political elite and the state. This is a lie. Since the French revolution through the Kenyan experience of independence struggles, the seven bearded sisters, DTM-Mwakenya, 82 coup attempt, the Saba saba struggles, the bomas talks, the referendum vote, etc, there is no evidence of a place where the state and the political elite push for constitutional overhaul or change. This is a dishonest intellectual assertion and no research or argument has demonstrated the veracity of this third assumption of yours.  Instead, the struggle has always been a struggle from below, by the people and through their initiatives and organisations, overt or covert. The people through ORGANISED ACTION use strategies including mass action, boycott, protest votes etc to bring the state and the political elite to negotiate. If the genuine reformers and the leaders of the people movement are not  on the table of negotiations, only bourgeois revolutions occur---- this is the NARC experience where the people's hunger for change was served with yet another elite settlement and not genuine political, economic and social reforms. That is why the university intake is at B+; your house rent in Nairobi is 15,000 while the lowest paid worker still earns Kshs. 2,500 a month. The state is sacking lecturers, demolishing the houses of the poor, jailing poor young people in prisons, more Anglo leasing going on;
  iv.                 ODM and its leaders like Raila and Kalonzo are not genuine. Like Kibaki and his bunch the struggle between them is purely   INTRA CLASS. It is about which group of thieves is more qualified to steal our resources.

    
Odhiambo T Oketch ; wrote:
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 05:42:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Odhiambo T Oketch ;
Subject: Fwd: CONSTITUTION REVIEW
To: {the list}

There are somethings we must take with a pinch of salt.

Kenyans want a new constitution yes, but the road maps we are being given are littered with thorns which our bear feet cannot withstand.

If kibaki and his handlers never took part in the democratic struggle, tried giving us an ass for a constitution, how sure are we that on thier third attempt, they will give us what we want?

This constitution thing must wait until Kenyans have picked a new leaders, someone who will walk the talk, someone who is not a coward, someone who can say it like it is.

The current holders of power have been in the game since 1963, and there is nothing new they will offer.  They only think of imaginery things like 'water for
all by 2000', which end up materialising in thier pockets.

How comes these guys are so rich and Kenya is so poor?

Oto


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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:58:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Odhiambo T Oketch ;
Subject: CONSTITUTION REVIEW
To: otoketch @ . . .

THERE has been a lot of acrimony over the constitutional review in the recent past. And Prof Ghai has taken a lot of flak from kiraitu, muite, the multi talented kamau kuria, koigi, mirugi, murungaru and strangely from Joseph Munyao.

At the same time, Prof Ghai has received support from Kalonzo, Raila and other voices of reason.  What must be worrying most Kenyans is the tone of
Kiraitu and his backers. They really have a lot of contempt for Kenyans that they take us for granted. To Kiraitu and company, we are a lot that do not have
memory and moreso, we cannot think and/or see through their plot.

The arrogance with which Kiraitu opperates is simply beyond redemption. The man has great contempt for Kenyans that he abrogates unto himself the power to be the only person who knows what the law is. And at the same time he gets blind to the fact that Kenyans can see through his tribalistic inclinations. He has appointed the multi talented Kamau Kuria to almost any job available. He has appointed Kathurima M'noti to chair something. He has appointed Aaron
Ringera to probe Judges and is now fronting for him to be the Director of KACA. All these peaple were his partners at his law firm.

And this is the person now with the moral authority to spite Kenyans.

It is really sad that Murungi can find fault with Prof Ghai. This is simply an open scheme to derail the constitutional process.

But the only consolation Kenyans now have is that Raila by declaring Kibaki tosha, has managed to expose the kikuyu greed to all other Kenyans.

OTO OCTAVIAN

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