Re: [Jambo] ODM-USA activities-Mucha on the attack, NO answer yet

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 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 20:31:41 -0800 (PST)
    From: abdillahi amin <amin016 at Yahoo dOt com>
 Subject: Re: [Jambo] ODM-USA activities-Mucha on the attack, NO answer yet
   

Mucha! Mucha!
 
I can't help it. Just a word or so. I had wished you well for the holidays but
it looks like you are not ready for the good holiday. My biggest surprise is
that you have nick named me Charles. Really, are you in your right mind? You
mean all these people are after you? By the way, you forgot about Ogutu. Before we point accusatory finger at anyone, let us see they got you where you are now:
 
(a) did any of these people help you make the negative comment about women? I hope the comments you received from the public made you more gender sensitive.  Hopefully you got the same from women relatives.
 
(b) what did they do wrong, asking for ODM-USA officials and contacts? If this is a mistake or negative Internet question, then I do not know what is appropriate. Like I said in my last statement, I am not interested in your answer any more, because if it was genuine, it would have been out long time ago. You know you were not obligated in any way to answer the question; how did you get into it. You could have kept quiet, or said I do NOT know or I am not a
member.
 
(c) after having hosted "BIG POLITICIANS FROM KENYA" you should have some experience in dealing with simple questions like the ones you and you friends are failing to answer. I know, if it was Kenya, since you know BIG POLITICIANS, you may be tempted to order a limb or an eye destroyed. Thank God we are not in Kenya. You may been tempted to take the law into your hands; with your team you can certainly beat up these people, scare the hell out of them, scatter them to different states. With your power what could possibly be limiting. For dessert, you can break a few limbs. I suggest you start with Bosire who asked a humble question, then Amin and Ogutu. Teach them a lesson. I think Bosire, Amin and Ogutu will immediately pledge loyalty when they see broken limbs and blind eyes.  But them, being the kind man I am, let me offer you some advice, crime does not help. All these because they asked for ODM-USA officials and their contacts? Come-on Mr Mucha, I think you should have answered the question in the first place. It is so simple a three year old can take a short at it. Being gender sensitive, I believe any six year old girl can do it in her "sleep". I couldn't help this since I must not help mislead you
into gender confusion.
 
(d) what about "kati thuthne or kithna". I hope I quoted it correctly. Neither
Bosire or Amin, not to mention Ogutu, Charles, Sam or Raila007 helped formulate such crude statements. You did it yourself. You see where I am coming from?  You were to say the least, very entertaining.
 
What I am saying is this: YOU DID ALL THESE TO YOURSELF Mr. Mucha. Look yourself in the eye and lie. Saying that these people did it to you. I hope you appreciate yourself more than you appreciate women not to do this.
 
Listen young or old man, let us enjoy Christmas or Kwanzaa while waiting for
what the new year will bring. The fact still remains ODM-USA in support of ODM-K doesn't exist in the USA. The one claiming to exist is "a turn coat" group that everybody should avoid at all cost. Again, I urge ODM-K supporters to channel any support they have to ODM-K in Kenya until we get a branch willing to stand up and live upto ODM-K ideals. Officials willing to put their names forward, willing to be answerable to wanainchi's questions simple or complex, and willing to go to jail if our contributions to ODM-K are stolen. Mr. Mucha, you still have a chance if you can redeem yourself. We need people with your connection and experience. By the way, how was the party?
 
Amin



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From: THOMAS <tmmucha aT excite doT  com>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 2:26:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Jambo] ODM-USA activities


All

Kenyans If you want to know this people, abdillahi Amin,dbosire,ogutu, this
people are Raila007 official and they are using fakes names to bash ODM - USA,  One of them is vice, Charles Odhiambo, Sam secretary and they are doing dirty job for their chairman. You guys should should be ashame of this guys they are kangaroos in the Raila007.Now they want to be MP in 2007 Kenyas this are shem ochuodho duplicate.


--- On Fri 12/22, abdillahi amin < amin016 aT yahOo dot Com > wrote:
From: abdillahi amin
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:17:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [Jambo] ODM-USA activities

What makes you think that a phone call would be any different. What can you
possibly discus over a phone that they were unable to state publicly here in the
web? Unlike Abonyo, I believe your question was genuine and it would have saved unnecessary exchanges if ODM-USA officials chose to answer it. Now we would be discus something else, such as how do we join to strengthen ODM-USA. I am glad you asked the question, it has exposed this group, which I am now convinced are not genuine.

Mucha would rather bash women instead of answering your question. I wonder what the group members who responded like Odotte think now. I hope that they have a different opinion about women.

Now more than ever, it is clear that we need ODM-K branch(s) in the USA. There are two way to go about it: one to start a movement right now, two, wait until ODM-K nominates their candidate. Another way is to link with one of the group currently in place in support of the ODM-K candidates in the hope of turning it into ODM-K vehicle of support after the nomination. We have the Minnesota, Dallas and New Jersey group. Meanwhile let us drum up support for our respective candidates.

Amin

----- Original Message ----
From: "dbosire At aOl dOt coM"
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:51:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Jambo] ODM-USA activities

Mr. Owuor

Thank you for your suggestions and insight. Frankly, I am left more confused and baffled than I was before I asked the question. I agree with you that ODM is majorly based  in Kenya, but all along I've always thought that ODM-USA was an extension or rather ODM-K branch in the US. It is interesting to note, based on what Mr Ogutu wrote, that ODM-USA is a brief-case organization. I hope that is not true, otherwise it would be a sad and terrible thing. After all the
exchanges, looks like I have three names to pick from - Mr. Odotte Kojiem, Doc and Mucha as possible contacts for ODM-USA. I will follow through with them.  Hopefully I will  get my questions answered.

Bosire

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From: owuorke AT yahOO dOT cOM
Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Jambo] ODM-USA activities

Bosire

The Coordinators are the same guys you read their contributions here. There's
nothing so huge or important about who the Officials are; most important, ODM is majorly based in Kenya. It is in that same location we will have it even after general elections as Kenya is the only legal boundary any political party can rule.  We are here as supporters and volunteers who see ODM ideologies as neccessary for Kenyan Progress for the future. It is therefore alive in us and consequently alive in the U.S. where we currently reside.

This media will always serve you as the contact link to most of the ODM
supporters/ Officials," you therefore have their contacts for your Info. just
make up your mind on where you want rest ideologies for future Kenya.

Mr. Owuor